Babe, don't you think I'm looking a little extra today?
-Babe, you were born extra! -So are you, and that's why
we are too much, with a little bit of extra.
Yes, too much, like the '90s Bollywood movies.
Absolutely! Where the heroes wore orange pants,
a green shirt, and still managed to get the girl at the end.
And, what about the heroines? Shivering and dancing in the snow
because, apparently, we're immune to the cold
or we're just used to suffering!
Why didn't they ever give us jackets?
Speaking of heroines dancing, maybe not in the snow,
but you have danced on Instagram,
and Akshay even commented, "Priceless!"
He also said, "Questionable talent."
Which is not something that we can say about our guests today!
Absolutely not!
One didn't need back-up dancers
because his expressions were doing the item numbers for him.
And the other is so quirky that the casting directors
don't know if he's a hero, a villain, or just a meme.
Hey, Govinda, how am I looking?
You look very good. Your shirt looks even better, though.
-I love your eyes! -Aankhen…
Oh, our Aankhen!
Put your hands together for
Govinda and Chunky Panday!
Now, we will roast you.
-I see. Great. -Oh God!
-Is this the roasting couch? -Almost!
But I am not appropriately dressed for a roast.
I am glad you did wear something. Back in the day,
-we've seen you. -Yes.
He's the hero in underpants.
You will find him anywhere, in his undies.
-"Chaddi Panday." -"Chaddi Panday!"
"Chaddi Panday!"
He is afraid of people asking him for his things.
He roams in his underpants, so there's nothing anyone can ask him for.
-He's right! -Let's start with the questions.
-Sure. -Yes.
You've always been upfront about your Virar background.
You've always owned it.
Did anybody try to give you a complex about it?
Or has anyone ever made you feel small?
And how did you handle it?
Kajol, I have never gone by what people say,
their pretense, or the glamour.
Whatever I got in life, I think, has been a blessing from the Almighty.
A person who has gone through the lows of life
turns out very different.
I think that people who have been through
the struggle of traveling by local trains
develop a thick skin towards life.
-Really. -Yes.
Where I was born…
We used to live in such homes where, in the monsoons,
we would build barricades out of bricks,
and we had some sticks that we had collected…
We would place them in a way to prevent waterlogging in the house.
Along with the water, some snakes would also come into the house.
-Oh, my goodness! -Yeah!
-Yes. It was scary. -Correct.
So I wouldn't even sleep.
-Why? -Why?
Just. That's how life was.
A snake might come in?
What not? I would chase thieves.
I would catch snakes.
I would even catch the troublemakers.
Basically, in your other life, you could've been a watchman.
Yes, you could say that.
"Oh, sir!"
That's how it was.
But to think about it, my house was in a mess.
Because of my mother, I never really felt
that difficulties could get the better of me.
Mom would sing in the morning.
Just like royal families,
our day would begin
with classical songs and music.
-That's how we would wake up. -How sweet!
Wow, fabulous!
When you get to eat
only simple food, a mere spoonful of ghee
can make you feel privileged.
People would call me a glutton.
They were told that's a good thing, we won't have to pay medical bills.
My mother was an ascetic
flaunting her religious attire.
Chunky, you came from a completely different background.
-Totally. -Different from Chi Chi.
You were a Bandra boy.
I remember your mother was a doctor to all the actors.
-Yes. -My grandmother knew you.
He used to come to our house, and my grandmother always called him
"Junky Panday."
-Never Chunky! -Junky!
-Her name was Bitti Kapadia. -Yes.
-I have seen Twinkle in diapers. -Yuck!
-Really? -Yes, she used to run around.
-Oh! -We would visit their house
to watch video films.
In all of India, there were only two video players.
One at Mr. Rajesh Khanna's house,
-who is her father. -Of course.
We'd go there to watch films,
and she was just two years old, running around.
In diapers!
-I don't remember you in diapers… -Twinkle, I must say this
on this show.
I am a die-hard fan of your father's.
-An ardent follower. -Mr. Rajesh Khanna!
What a personality!
He was ahead of his time!
There was no hero like him, and there will never be another as beautiful as him.
-He was also the first person… -Superstar!
He was the first superstar of the industry.
-Yes. -He was a legend.
My favorite film is him and…
-Tanuja ma'am… Haathi Mere Saathi. -Haathi Mere Saathi.
I have watched that film about 50 times.
-My favorite film! Haathi Mere Saathi. -Yes.
It used to be my favorite, also. I used to always watch it.
Well, it wasn't my favorite! I didn't even speak to my mother
for three days.
I was like, "How could you kill that elephant?"
K. N. Singh shoots the elephant. I cried my eyes out.
-I was not allowed to see Anand. -As we discussed, Twinkle.
-Yes. -So he… he was very kind-hearted.
He would ask me,
"Govind, how have you not made it to where you are meant to be?"
So what did you have to say?
"You are very simple."
I would tell him, "Sir,
I feel the Almighty has already decided your destiny,
who is worth how much, and how far one can go.
So I am very happy that I am able to run my household,
and my parents and siblings are all happy. I am happy too!"
He would say, "Is it? Are you happy?"
So sweet. Typical of him.
Oh! What a personality. I really liked him.
Tell me a little bit about how you came into the movies.
Was it because your mother knew everybody?
Yes, I am the epitome of nepotism.
-Let me say that. -Stop it!
I am the son of two doctors.
My father was a heart surgeon, and my mother was a doctor too.
My mother knew everyone in the industry.
I tried my best to become a doctor. In fact, my parents
-wished for me to become a doctor… -I am glad you failed.
India's population would have declined had I become a doctor.
You would have spelled doom for sure!
No, no, I did earn a degree. MBBF.
-MBBF? -Matric Mein Baar Baar Fail.
Then I earned a PhD as well.
Passed High School with Difficulty.
So it was clear that I couldn't have ever become a doctor.
"So what do you want to become?" I said I wanted to be an actor.
My family is not one of actors.
But yes, my maternal uncle was into character roles.
His name was Col. Raj Kapoor. He had produced movies like…
-There's a Kapoor in your house, as well? -Yes, Kapoor!
My mother was a Kapoor.
-Raj Kapoor, of all names! -Raj Kapoor.
He produced the serial Fauji starring Shah Rukh Khan.
-He was my maternal uncle. -Oh!
-So, there was film-blood in the family. -Yes.
My first movie… I struggled for four to five years,
and then I got the break, all thanks to no one but him.
-How? -I left a movie, so he got it.
Yes. By God! He's right.
-Really? -That's how… Yes.
I thought it was a joke.
-For four years-- -Was that not a joke?
No, it wasn't a joke.
I'm not joking! I struggled for four years.
I couldn't bag any roles in video films or TV serials.
Then I happened to bump into Mr. Pahlaj Nihalani in a bathroom.
-Bathroom? Oh, my God! -He's obsessed with the bathroom!
Now I know why he's always in the bathroom!
He thinks it all started there.
-It has. -You never know…
Anybody can meet anywhere!
I know a line in Marathi that is correct for him…
"Rain coming out of your butt!"
Yes, because he's always in the bathroom.
-What do you do in there? -Such big things
have unfolded in there… My career started there.
-Yes. -Your first movie was also played there.
So, Mr. Pahlaj Nihalani launched him. I mean, he did his second movie
with him. Ilzaam. It was a super-hit.
-Absolutely! -It was so big!
-Yes. -I met him in there… I didn't know.
There was no social media back in the day,
and people didn't know who looked like what.
We're both in the bathroom, and my drawstring
was in a knot. I wanted someone to help me open it.
He helped me open it. "Come, let me help you."
I asked him what he was into.
He said he was Pahlaj Nihalani, the producer. I was taken aback.
I knew he was the one who launched Govinda.
I said I was Chunky Panday. He said it was a strange name.
I agreed and told him I wanted to act in movies.
He asked me to come to his house the next day and meet him.
-I bagged the role the next day. -God knows how he does it.
-Then? -That's how it all started.
-I love him. -But as I said,
I got it because Govinda was very busy at that time.
I think he deserves the credit
because my performance was compared with his.
He's just so talented!
So, people thought I too was a little talented.
-Just so talented! -You're being modest about it.
-At one point, both of you were compared. -He was very good in his first film.
-He was very good. I had watched the film. -Yes, absolutely.
The comparison was bound to happen, as it was the same producer
who launched me and produced a hit film with him.
-He started in 1986. I did in 1987. -Wow!
-He's my senior. -About the same time.
But I am older than him.
-Touch my feet, child. -Oh, my God!
Don't embarrass me!
People think we have worked on many films together.
But we've only done two films.
-Really? -Yes!
-Aankhen, the eyes you see here. -Yes.
-I love your shirt, man. -Thank you! Do you want it from me?
You have offered me something. It's a first.
No, it wasn't meant for you…
He will strike a deal.
He will go for an endorsement. He's known for his innovative fix.
-I'll make you perform for free. -He's here, sporting it.
Now he wants me to wear it, so I am the one framed.
Who knows where he's got it from!
-He's capable of doing it. -Quite possible!
Whose is it?
It's nice, but whose is it?
I got it from the laundry this morning, on rent.
The eyes tell me a different story.
-Wow! -So, coming back to…
So, for you, the starting move was
imitating Michael Jackson's dance steps.
So, what was the first MJ move that you learned
that made you feel performing it could make you an actor?
Let me be honest.
The fact of the matter is just the opposite.
-Did he learn from you? -No, it is untrue.
-I was not a dancer at all. -What?!
-You're the best dancer. -No, listen to me.
-Come on! -Hear me out.
I was being threatened…
The movie shooting was on.
The song scenes were being shot, and they showed me
-Jaaved Jaaferi's moves. -I see.
-His moves… -Subhash Ghai's movie.
-Meri Jung? -Yes.
-It was a song from that movie. -"Bol Baby Bol."
I was awestruck!
His moves looked like Michael Jackson's.
I asked who he was!
Then Mr. Pahlaj goes…
-"Do you see his moves?" -"Oh, yes!"
"If you can't beat this,
-your career will end before it begins." -Oh, my God!
I told him I would try my best.
Then I had to pursue Ms. Saroj. I asked her
-to guide me. -I see.
-Amazing! -She just wasn't ready to do it.
She said that I didn't need to do all that.
She said that I was good at what I could already do.
I agreed, saying that copying someone was not noble.
-Yes. -Kamal Master gave me my own style.
He showed me how to communicate through my moves.
I asked him how on earth it was possible.
He would extract some excerpts from the lyrics,
-and we would dance on those. -I see.
So, it started with Kamal Master.
-Ms. Saroj taught me dancing. -Yes.
But it was Kamal Master who gave me my style.
-I knew him very well. -I didn't understand.
-Please give us an example. -For every word,
-he would perform a step. -Yes.
-He would enact every word. -Yes, it was amazing.
He would enact the lyrics as if he could see
the words in front of him.
Perfectly in sync with the lyrics.
That's what Kamal Master was!
-Too good! -Tell me this…
-This step… -This is Ganesh's.
-Yes. Today, Govinda means these steps. -Wow!
People still perform these steps in wedding ceremonies.
But, Chunky, you were something else, too!
They used to call you "Chocolate Boy."
Now, it is Ranveer Singh in his red underpants
running around in the movie Befikre. But the pioneer was Chunky Panday.
I have fact-checked this. It is no rumor.
-The pioneer of the red underpants! -No. Just underpants.
-People would call me "Chaddi Panday"! -Yes.
-I saw you. -Let me explain.
The renowned magazines, you know…
They would always hunt for something sensational.
It would either be gossip or skimpy-clad actors on their covers.
So, I would always volunteer to be the candidate because
you wouldn't be on the cover then.
That's how I got the covers. By stripping down to my underpants.
-Choose the magazine's cover or yours! -Yes.
I had no choice, you see. It was for my career.
-I remember a photo-- -No one has a choice.
I remember him flaunting a black one with pink stripes. Chunky Panday!
It was not an underwear. It was my swimming pants.
If you happen to drop by Otters Club at 12:00 p.m.,
you would find me there swimming, sporting the same.
-I just don't believe this person. -Who?
You.
One of his movies was supposed to be
a super-hit one. So, I purchased the tickets from the black market
-and sold them at half the price. -Only you can do this, Chunky!
-To tarnish the movie's image. -Really?
-Yes, I did it. At Gaiety Galaxy. -What a shameless person!
I am confessing to it now.
His innovative fixes are impeccable, and he's very proud!
-He says it to your face. -Yes. He once told me this…
that Bhavna had asked him for a 65-inch TV.
So, he said he had got it for her. Bhavna asked him for the remote.
He said it wasn't there.
Then she complained about the low volume,
and he said he would attach speakers to it.
What has he bought? Ask him!
He had bought the airline information screens
from the airport at a cheap price.
I performed a dance at his wedding.
-What a performance it was! -He was impressed
that I didn't charge him for it.
Bhavna and I were on the stage, greeting the guests for two long hours.
-You know how weddings are? -Yes.
We were tired. Suddenly, he came. And the way he made us dance!
I was very happy that he was tagged…
Now he can't say that he's a bachelor.
His happiness knew no bounds. I got married quite late.
-"Chunky, you're gone now." -Gone!
So, now, both of them were done for. Happiness.
I never say so, especially when the camera is rolling.
-Regarding? Getting married or ruined? -I wouldn't dare!
-I can't afford to. -He has to go back home.
Sunita will take him to task.
Tell me something…
Before the brand collaborations and sponsors became popular,
you were the first person who had a sponsored New Year's party
every year. We would queue up to get entry.
Why just New Year parties? My birthday parties were sponsored, too!
The companies that would
manufacture underwear were the sponsors.
The cake-cutting backdrop was adorned with those hoardings.
In fact, once, they gave me a cake shaped like underwear.
-Yes. -An underwear-shaped cake!
So, the perfect name for you would be "Chaddi Panty."
"Chaddi Panty?"
-Not "Chaddi Panday" anymore? -"Chaddi Panty"!
Absolutely! Now this episode is going to be a "Chaddi" episode.
Imagine a cake in the shape of an underwear.
-Forget it! -Forget it!
No one wanted to eat it.
But all your stories are related to underwear.
Your coming to the industry is also related to it.
What made you think you would get everything sponsored?
You were the first person to take people for paid birthdays
-and mundan ceremonies… -Yes.
-How did you manage all this? -Did you really?
-Mundan ceremonies and funerals as well. -Yes.
-By mistake. I didn't know. -By…
-Did they pay you? -No. I did get paid.
The organizer made a fool out of me.
He just told me it was an event
and the dress code was white.
-So I went there. -How then--
When I discovered it was a funeral, I thought the organizer was dead.
But then I saw him standing right there.
-I didn't know why I was there. -Knowing you, Chunky,
-you must have taken money for that, too. -Get paid for sobbing.
He said he would pay me 50,000 rupees more for crying my eyes out.
We have done many shows together.
We had once toured the US. Do you remember?
-You landed me in trouble. -Yes.
I had reached Chicago. Something felt fishy…
Then I was told that Chunky Panday hadn't turned up.
Why? What happened to you?
-And I have… -I called him up to ask him where he was.
He said he didn't come because he wasn't paid.
I asked him why he didn't inform me.
-So, I… -You heard this from him.
I once hosted a "Govinda Night" without Govinda.
-How did you do that? -He was absent!
-Fabulous! -No, there were my duplicates…
-The ones by Abbu Malik. -Yes, he would do that.
-How many shows we have done with him! -Yes.
I have danced to all Govinda songs.
Every song of his, I was there. That's how we made money.
-Without Govinda? -No, with him.
-With Govinda? -In the South.
Even today, people have Govinda-themed parties.
-I have been invited. -Really?
As Chunky Panday to a Govinda themed party!
Dress up and dance like Govinda to his songs.
-Many hold such events. -Only to embarrass me further.
-No! -No!
They wear clothes that even I wouldn't wear!
-One second. -Govinda is a…
-You're an icon! -Absolutely!
-When people talk about you-- -You're an icon, and I am a "con"!
-Good one! -Just a "con"!
You both never had managers.
Now people have managers, image consultants,
-nutritionists, stylists… -Trainers too!
-Yes, really. -Yes.
You made yourself a trend and an icon
without all of this.
-Was it hard work or did it just happen? -It was all my plan.
-You planned your discipline? -He was like an astrologer.
The main problem was… The famous producers or directors,
the acclaimed ones… we wouldn't even get entry into their offices.
We would ask people close to them to introduce us.
They would turn my offer down,
saying that they were working with Amitabh Bachchan and Mithun Chakraborty
-and that I was a nobody. -He's right.
Mithun Chakraborty was the hero in most of the movies of that time.
So, we didn't stand a chance.
I felt insulted.
I was determined to do something so that we wouldn't ever need them.
We had met the new producers and directors by then.
We decided to come together as a group
and travel down south
and show the audience our movies.
We got to know that movie rights were being sold.
I insisted on buying them
as per everyone's liking.
Those who wanted to sell it could do so,
and those who didn't met the same fate.
-How? -It was copied and pasted!
-They were done for. -Absolutely!
-My super-hit movies are all from there. -Wow!
You're the first Bollywood hero
to have shot with Samantha Fox.
-What? Samantha Fox? -Yes.
-Oh, yes. -Absolutely!
-Very good. Very hot. -Didn't you feel you had become
a global star?
-He can't stop praising her at this age. -It was… Come on!
Don't discuss age, please.
Two things I'd like to avoid discussing. My age and my waist!
Both have gone up with time.
I got a bit lucky. It was Mr. Subir's movie.
-Subir, who? Yes! -Subir Mukherjee.
-He's related to you. -My paternal uncle.
-Uncle. -He wasn't too sure about his own story.
-Yes. That sounds like him. -He really was.
When he came to me with an offer, my mom asked me to accept a dozen bananas
and a coconut as my fees. I was taken aback.
-A dozen? -Bananas and a coconut as fees.
-That's it? -Yes, that's it.
I asked her the reason. She reminded me of the studio
from my childhood.
His mother was named Sharda or Saraswati… What was it?
-Her name was Sati Rani. -I see.
She was the go-to person when there was a dearth of money.
She would get us those things…
on the sly.
She told me that we owed them a lot,
and so she didn't want me to charge him anything.
And it so happened that the person who was chosen for the film's song was…
-Samantha Fox. -Samantha Fox.
I don't remember seeing her fully clad.
I was blown away by her beauty.
-It was… -That song was a rage.
Absolutely!
So, you took a banana as salary.
-You spoke about… -Not one, a dozen!
A dozen bananas and a coconut. Not just a banana!
-Sorry, that sounds wrong. -It was really…
-It was your fee. -A dozen bananas and a coconut.
Sounds like we are monkeys, taking bananas?
You remember the monkey in the movie Aankhen?
-It wouldn't eat bananas. -It was a drunkard.
-Really? -Yes, it was.
-It was a drunkard! -The monkey?
Yes. It would miss its aim.
-A drunk monkey! -I don't know, whenever it would pounce
on me, it wouldn't ever land correctly because it would be drunk.
-It was very heavy too! -Oh, God!
-It weighed 60 to 70 kilos. -A drunk monkey!
It would come all the way from Chennai and get paid
-double the money of ours combined. -We didn't even get paid!
Yes, we didn't.
It would be accompanied by six bouncers from the South.
After the movie
became a blockbuster, I told Mr. Pahlaj
-to pay up. -Only the monkey got paid.
He said, "I will pay you eventually because I will employ you."
It was more like a studio salary.
I hope he isn't watching this show, or we're screwed.
So, he became a global star, and you became
-the Amitabh Bachchan of Bangladesh! -Bangladesh!
-How did that happen? -Yes?
I was on the way to Hong Kong.
The plane's engine acted up, and we had to halt at Dhaka.
After landing, we exited the airport and met a producer.
-At the airport? -Yes, it is a usual meeting spot.
-Not in the bathroom this time? -In the airport bathroom!
-Oh, my God! -I swear!
The plane had to make an emergency landing.
-The plane was stuck for two hours. -The same story in Dhaka!
-So, what did he say to you? -He proposed a Bangladeshi movie to me.
I agreed. I started with my first film after coming back from Hong Kong.
His career in the South was going North!
For me, things went down South.
So I went to Bangladesh.
-You went to the east. -Yes, to the east.
The first movie over there was a blockbuster.
And then I became a superstar there. My movies would release on Eid.
-Chunky! -I had also become a distributor
and whatnot. But it was fun.
-My next destination is Nepal. -What for?
-For doing a film? -The Amitabh Bachchan of Nepal!
I want to capture all the SAARC countries.
Once, I was in Lonavala, buying snacks, when I met an astrologer.
I was all of five years then. He wanted to read my palm.
He told me I would travel a lot and prosper in life.
-I asked him where to. -He was like…
He didn't know much… He said Bangladesh, Sri Lanka,
and even Nepal!
-So, it was the calling. -I'm sure he was talking about
Chikki, your brother's son.
-Yes, you're right. Saiyaara! -Congratulations!
-Thanks! -Good…
Now I have named myself "Chunky Saiyaara Panday."
-I have no choice! -He'll have more work now.
I was "Dr. Panday's son," to start with.
Then I was Chunky Panday for a short span,
after which, I was addressed as "Ananya Panday's father."
-How lucky! -Later, "Bhavna Panday's husband."
Now I am "Ahaan Panday's uncle." That's all about my identity.
But does it feel good to be known as Ananya's father today?
-I mean, it's a totally different feeling. -Yes.
-Feels nice. -It's a big compliment, I tell you…
-Yes. -When I was new in the industry,
my father had gone to attend a heart surgeons' conference
in Delhi, and he rang me up in the night via a STD call.
He said he was elated. I asked him the reason.
He said he was elated when the organizers addressed him
as "Dr. Sharad Panday, a cardiovascular surgeon from Mumbai
who also happens to be Chunky Panday's father."
This is at the heart surgeon's conference.
My father got so excited!
But I couldn't relate to it. He was way too excited
-and called me up. -Yes.
Now I can relate to it when people address me as "Ananya's father."
-It feels like… -We always want our children
-to do better than us. -Yes.
-Just think… -I want Yash to outshine me and
-prosper in life. -Yes.
-And they will do it! They will. -For sure.
-He will surely make a name for himself. -When they are little
and learn how to speak or walk, the parents feel so excited.
So imagine when they're on the global stage and they do something
-the excitement is just too much! -Absolutely!
-So, it's a blessing and… yes. -Govinda, your wife was saying
that even "Nepo Kids" face groupism.
Some of them get breaks very easily, and some do not.
-Do you feel the same? -I think
when things go our way, we call it good luck.
When things do not, we look for excuses.
Let's not dwell on that for too long
and improve our skills and aim higher.
Tell us what you are going to do next because we have not
seen you on-screen for so long!
At times, life comes to a standstill.
No matter how promising the script
or the lyrics are, they would bring you glory
only when you're destined for it.
I believe we artists always live in a womb.
We feel we are already born, but we are very fortunate
-to have the opportunity to be born again! -Rebirth.
-We can be reborn. -So true!
Some articles were doing the rounds, saying my time was up.
I decided to produce movies.
We started working on Aa Gaya Hero.
Before that, I met David Dhawan.
He suggested we make a movie with Sohail.
-Partner? -Yes.
He asked Sohail to produce it under his company
and to get Salman as the hero.
-Oh! And that's how Partner came up. -So, Salman became the hero.
-What a film that was! -What a film!
-That was such a cool film. -Please enact that dialogue
-where you are in tears. -That's my best dialogue.
-Please do it. -I watched the movie…
That performance was outstanding!
-Please do it once. -Please!
-The tagline in that movie for me was -Yes.
"I have never been happier."
I didn't exactly know how to say it.
"I have never been happier."
So, it goes like this…
"I have never been happier."
Wow!
I want to tell you
that we did two movies together.
Govinda and his eating habits are both legendary.
So, when we had to shoot a romantic song, I would tell him,
"Right after lunch, they are going to shoot a close-up. We are going to sing
so close to each other. Please don't eat onions!"
One second. I told him, "Don't eat any onions."
Then he'd say very sweetly, "Please let me have some."
He would come back and say
"I have had two onions!"
And I could fact-check that.
With every breath, I could fact-check that he had two onions.
When I was working with him, he was doing 14 movies at a time.
Yeah. He'd shoot at four places on the same day.
-But we were all doing. -And sometimes he would come in
a different costume. From another movie, he would come wearing something.
So, did you remember which dialogue to say where…
-I'd remember everything. -And where to wear which clothes.
Kirti really scared me.
"Chi Chi, we're doing movies without any planning."
"If this doesn't work, you're finished."
-But actually it's a good thing. -He'd really scare me.
-But the fear should be there. -I was so scared…
I became so honest with it…
"Sir, was this supposed to be like this, at this place?"
"Show me the photograph. Yes. Let's go."
That's how it was.
Some didn't have the finance, some didn't have the heroine…
Some didn't have anything! Yet they wanted to shoot.
What nonsense! How?
I was defamed that I'm never on time. When this happened…
Who the heck would have the strength to work five shifts a day
and yet come on time? Work diligently as well.
It's impossible. How will a person shoot so many films?
People get tired of shooting for just one film now.
We'd do shows and whatnot. There were no endorsements then.
-Yeah. -We had no ads.
-Undergarments ads. -Yeah.
So, we only had functions… Mundans, weddings…
-It was very bad. -Do an event or a film.
-There was no other source of money. -Absolutely.
-And you know, 40 to 50 films… -How many films have you done?
I've done about 100. He must have done about 200.
-No, 156. -156.
-But we'd have a competition. -Wow! 100 films, 156 films.
-No, but Kajol-- -I've not reached 50 also.
50, but then, your worth depended on the number of movies you're working on.
Forget the quality, the quantity matters.
So, the bigger the actor, the busier he has to be.
-Oh, my God. -That used to be the system.
-Correct? -I agree.
The movie has to run. And that was it.
-Correct. -I was shooting for Shola Aur Shabnam.
A financer came there and said, "These people are useless now."
I said, "What…"
-Outdated. They are not with us. -"They won't work. They are all old.
They are finished." They said this to me during Shola Aur Shabnam.
-How old were you then? 25 to 26? -Yes.
-30. -Not even 30.
-28 to 30. -They used to humiliate us.
That era was like that.
We've been in the past, and now it's time to make new memories.
-Absolutely. -Let's go into the future.
It's now time for a game where neither acting nor diplomacy will work.
Oh, so I have to act like a politician.
Yes, exactly.
Do we have to lie or tell the truth?
-You have to tell the truth. -Lie with honesty.
It's time for Oppo presents "This Side That Side." Okay?
-Ready? Let's go. -Let's go?
Okay, let's go.
-Very good. Yes. -Okay, it's very simple.
We'll read a prompt. If you agree, you go in the green,
and if you don't agree, you go to the red.
But you have to defend why you chose the side.
-Okay. -Okay? So let's begin.
"Only six-pack abs don't help run a movie."
If you have to rely on your six packs, then it's pack up.
-What do we do then? -You've never had six packs.
-Will you say yes or no? Decide. -It's true.
-Come here then. -It doesn't help.
Come here.
Chunky…
"Chaddi Panty" says no, you need six packs.
-Defend yourself. -If I had six packs,
I'd have had more hits than Govinda.
The movie where the hero had six packs…
Om Shanti Om, remember, Shah Rukh Khan…
How did I survive all these years with a paunch?
Look at Tiger Shroff's six-pack. Aren't his films running?
Shah Rukh Khan has them. Akshay Kumar has shown his six-pack.
Ajay Devgn has shown six-pack.
That's what runs. Six packs help a movie run.
-Okay. -What are you talking about?
-Yes. -Six packs help run a movie?
Yes.
Gone!
No, I don't like all this.
I feel that all the movies that I've watched in life…
The best heroes ever didn't have six packs.
Like who?
-Your respected father. -Dilip Kumar.
Mr. Dilip didn't have them.
Amitabh Bachchan doesn't have them.
There was never a better actor than him…
-Govinda… -Govinda doesn't have them either.
-No, no. -Where are your six packs?
Excuse me. I have a paunch now.
I'll tell you, my stomach was actually my chest.
It slipped and came down.
-"Men are better drivers than women." -Hundred percent.
-Hundred percent not! -Hundred percent.
I can only talk about myself, yes.
-I have spatial issues… -No, this is a lie. It's not true.
-You're one person. You're one woman. -I'm talking about myself.
-I'm a very bad driver. -Why only driving…
-Men are better drivers than women. -You mean driving a car?
-Actually, I agree. -Yeah.
Women are very good at driving everyone around them insane.
They can drive a life.
-Ask him. -They can drive a person's life.
They can drive a life, but not a car.
The "driver" here doesn't mean a car driver.
I've met with two accidents in life.
Both times, a lady driver was driving a car.
-What nonsense! -Bhavna.
She drove over my foot once.
Since I was born, my car has been driven by women.
Really, first it was my mom,
-now it's Sunita. -Now it's your wife.
"A woman's responsibility is to raise kids."
Yes, it is.
Absolutely not!
-No! -It's true.
-It's not our responsibility only. -The biggest--
-It is our choice. -It is our choice.
-But having said that… -It is not only our responsibility.
But having said that, the reality is that we raise our kids,
and we also raise the pampered sons of other mothers, who become our husbands.
-So, all we do is raise. -That's what I'm saying.
No, the word responsibility that has been used…
-Chi Chi, come here. -The relation depends… Yes.
-Yes, go there first. -No, I believe that no one
-other than women… -Can raise kids better.
A man will make them very rigid.
Or he will become overprotective of them,
because he knows how the world functions.
A normal and natural life comes only with a mother.
Only a mother can look after her child.
-Nobody can do what a mother can. -Okay, we're the best.
-We're great. -Please come.
-We're the best. -I agree.
-There's no comparison with women. -I agree.
-We'll fail. -Not even God.
I agree. I think the same about my mother, too.
-But I think God is a female. -I beg God for forgiveness.
-Yes, it is. -Okay. Next.
"Marriage destroys you." Yes or no?
-No, never. -Choose. Go, then.
It can never be. Come here. Come.
-That's the "yes" side. Go. -"Marriage destroys you."
Destroys who? That's not mentioned.
Who are you even asking?
Don't ask me, at least.
-You know how much I'm… -Yes or no? This is…
Hold on.
-You have to choose one side. -I've married, honestly, many times…
Oh, my God!
-How many times? Tell us, Chi Chi. -Many.
-Three times? -Look, I'm being honest.
-I marry honestly in the movies. -I've gotten married
-in the movies many times. -But in real life…
I didn't have the courage.
I didn't want to marry Sunita either.
People forced me to marry her.
But you have to choose… Do you agree with this statement or not?
Yes. "Marriage destroys you." Just say yes or no.
-Yes or no? -End it!
-Yes or no? -No.
-Okay, next. -Next.
"Every married couple should have a joint account."
-Yes, there should be. -Absolutely not.
You should give all your money to your wife.
-Absolutely not. -Handling money is not a man's job.
Not at all. I don't think so.
You should share your bedroom, but the bathroom and the bank account
-should be personal. -The bank account should be personal.
-Very good. -Yeah, I agree.
-I agree. -Bathroom and bank account.
-No, I'll tell you why. -Multiple accounts, you can also have.
No, I'll tell you why I have a joint account.
You really are a henpecked husband. That's your title.
-No… -We know it.
-I swear. -Listen to the reason.
-He is also Coolie No. 1. -Everyone says it.
Everybody says it, that you're Bhavna's henpecked husband.
Hundred percent, but the problem is, we have a joint account
because my signature keeps changing.
All my checks bounce. So, she has to sign my checks.
-That's why I have a joint account. -Wow!
It's because I'm handicapped.
-It's a handicap. Come. -Or else I'd have never given my money.
I was wondering how you gave your money.
We've never made so many decisions, even in life. Let's go back.
Not decisions, we've taken a stand, and it's only against our own dignity.
-So, let's sit. -Oh, my.
Stand and sit, okay. Let's go.
-See. -So now we've come
to the topic of the day. This is the meat of our show.
If you're a vegetarian, you can call it the cottage cheese of our show.
-Paneer! -But…
-this is the main Tofu. -Tofu!
Basically, every Hero No. 1 has a woman standing beside him
who deserves credit.
And both of you have had a very strong influence of your mothers.
They were central to all of your life's ambitions, your dreams…
Your goals…
Tell us a little bit about how your mothers influenced you.
-Chunky, you start. -I'll start.
So, when I was going to be born, my mother and father
only wanted a daughter.
Both were doctors. They wanted a daughter.
The day I was born, 17 girls were born in that hospital.
I was the only boy born.
-So, until two years of age-- -So, you shattered your mother's dreams.
I shattered them as soon as I was born.
Mom had shopped only for frocks and all, because she was absolutely sure
-that it was going to be a girl. -And to save money,
-she made you wear them. -Yes. Until two years of age…
-I knew it. -All my baby pictures… I swear.
Earrings, lipstick, frocks, all my photos are like that.
That's why even today, when I go to a shop,
I first choose women's clothes, and people ask me,
"Is this for your wife or daughter?" I say, "No, it's for myself."
I love those floral… You see, my clothes, they are all like this.
-As they say… -A little flamboyant.
-Yeah. -The first four years of your life
are very important.
So, I feel, even the talent in me is a feminine force.
That gets the art and talent out.
And I'm a big believer in the Goddess.
-Absolutely. -So, I think, all my luck
is from my mother, my beautiful daughters, and you know…
they've just been very lucky for me.
-So, there I am. -Chi Chi, what about you?
She was a very strong force in your life as well.
-Yeah. -And when you talk about your mother,
-you were saying-- -I always say…
Mother, the sole embodiment of all holy pilgrimages, the Divine Goddess.
Wherever we go, whatever we see is all because of our mother.
I was very young, I was 13 years old.
Along with giving me her blessings, my mother became my guru.
She became my guru… I made a mistake once.
I cannot discuss that mistake here.
So, I made a mistake. I was a kid. So, I was forgiven.
But Mom found out that I really love her.
So, she asked, "Govind, do you really love me a lot?"
I said, "Yes, Mom. I really do."
Sorry.
"So, I'll make sure you get everything, even what you're not destined for."
I said, "How's that possible? That never happens."
She said, "It will happen. Just do as I say.
And promise me you'll never betray me."
I said, "I won't."
Three or four months passed by, and people started telling me…
"Wow! You look great. What's going on? What are you doing?"
By the time it was nine months, people started calling me a hero.
-Wow! -I said, "Mom, something's happening."
-It's a mother's blessing. -"Something's happening."
-Absolutely. -From the moment I realized
that she's my guru, I never looked back.
So, I feel like whoever I am, whatever I became,
I am alive, and the rebirths I take are all because of my mother.
M stands for mother, and you can never get another.
-Absolutely. -Now, tell us about the mother
of your children, your wives. Even they've had an influence.
She's a child herself.
My children handle my wife as if she's a child.
No, but mine…
-But Bhavna is a… -Bhavna is a--
Sunita is like a kid.
But the responsibilities that she was given…
She could manage our household
only because she is what she is.
-So, she… Yes, she's a child. -And I've heard that she--
-She's an honest child. -Yes, she's very honest.
-She can't keep anything in her. -Her words are never wrong.
It's just that she says things that she shouldn't.
That's best. That is best.
And what about Bhavna?
You know, I believe the second innings in my career are all because of Bhavna.
The luck that she brought me after I got married.
Because we got married in '98, when my career was at its lowest phase.
Because I was in Bangladesh, but… No, that was about to end too.
It was about to end. No, Bangladesh was a very big thing.
-Yeah, it was. -In '93 to '98. But that was ending.
And she was the one who told me to come back to Bollywood.
In fact, the best film that I've had recently is the Housefull series.
-Yes, of course. -And in fact--
-Aakhri Pasta. -Aakhri Pasta.
Sajid Khan, Bhavna, and I were at a party.
And Sajid Khan was telling Bhavna that he was making the film Housefull.
Everyone wanted him to play this character of Aakhri Pasta,
but he couldn't because he'd be unable to direct and act at the same time.
So, he was wondering who to cast in it.
So, Bhavna said, "Why don't you take Chunky?"
Then he looked at me and said, "Chunky, will you do it?"
I said, "Yes, I will."
So, I feel my wife has been very lucky for me.
They say, beside every successful man, there's a woman who's telling him
that he's wrong and she's usually right.
So, that is Bhavna.
-Every day she's… -I'll tell you what it is.
I'll tell you what the problem is with men.
Their problem is that they cannot think on those lines.
I always believe that women… Men run the house and women run the world.
So, does Sunita point out when you make mistakes?
Is she the one who brings you back? What is her role in your life?
She has made so many mistakes herself…
Poor Sunita!
I've forgiven her and the entire family so many times.
You see, what happens sometimes, according to me,
is that we rely too much on them.
Especially if your mother is not with you.
You rely too much on your wife.
And as time passes by, she even starts scolding like them.
She explains… Her ways become very similar.
-They don't realize it… -They become your mothers.
-Yes. -We can see everything
as to how they've changed now. How different they were!
When she was young… "No one's done me a favor!"
It starts from there.
Then they go on to, "How could you do this now?"
-I said, "Oh, Mother!" -The tone changes.
Mom!
If only we could see the world from the point of view of women.
We can never go to that extent to understand it.
I keep wondering what she means…
that I still don't seem to understand.
-Story of our lives. -I'll tell you the limit of my problems.
The limit of my problems… We had a domestic help, Ramabai.
If I told Ramabai that I'm a superstar now, she'd pull my ears.
"Hey, Chi Chi.
No matter how big you become,
you were this little when you were in my arms. Get it?"
-How sweet! -"When I'd massage you and turn you,
you'd slip out of my legs and fall right into the gutter."
Straight in the gutter.
We used to live in a tiny slum.
She'd scold me a lot, and it was funny.
I'd say, "Ramabai, you know I'm a star. I have a reputation. Show some respect."
"I'll slap you."
-"I'll slap you real hard." -Exactly!
That's how she is.
But I like that. I love that.
Now, every show must have a climax.
-Yes. -And the best climax for this show
can only be your dance.
-But he's the dancer. -Yeah, but Chunky and I
have danced with you. She has never danced with you.
We will dance. We will speak without saying a word.
-Okay, let's go. -Come.
-Where? To a disco? -Come on! Stop it! Nonsense!
Chunky, you too!
-Are we going to a disco? -Yes, absolutely.
Chi Chi, show the steps first.
One, two, three, four.
Chi Chi, whatever you do, we'll follow you.
-We'll do this first, and then that. -Yes. Done.
I know this step.
Let's go to a disco
Let's eat at a restaurant
Let's go to a disco
Let's eat at a restaurant
I hope no one catches us here
Let's go on a date
Come, let's fall in love
Let's fall in love, darling
Come, let's fall in love
Come, let's fall in love, darling!
My beloved, I am…
-We were all being converted to Govindas. -Yeah, absolutely!
-We've done it. -Happily!
Okay, so today was so much fun. Thank you so much for coming on our show.
-Thank you so much. -Thank you for coming.
But before we let you go, we have to take one picture for our archives.
But are you going to send us empty-handed or give us something too?
No, you will get a hamper.
-Yeah, it doesn't look good. -That is Chunky Panday.
Let's all give one expression that says today was too much!
And the Kalyan hamper goes to…
-Chunky Panday! -Oh, really?
You won't say "I'm joking" after this, right?
-I'm a-joking. -I'm a-joking. Aakhri Pasta!
Mama Mia. Does this contain gold or silver?
Gold. Only gold.
-Kalyan only sells gold. -Diamonds, come here.
-Okay, thank you, guys, for being here. -Thank you so much.
-I hope you like your hamper. -Thank you.
Thank you so much.
-Thank you. Take care. -Thank you.
-Bye! -Thank you.
See you next time.
-We'll come back in the next season. -Come again. Always welcome.
-These two ladies… -Are too much.
-Let's take a selfie. -Absolutely.
Yes, nice.
Can you show me the picture? I have trust issues.
-You're looking nice. -Just show me.
Okay, see.
Babe, this is a really bad picture of me.
I'm looking nice. Okay, wait. I'm your fixer, right?
I said I'd hide dead bodies for you, I can easily do this. Wait.
-Done. -I'm not there in the picture anymore.
-That's the point. -And how did you do this?
I used Oppo's AI eraser.
Oh, I'm looking really nice though.
-My turn. Okay? -Okay.
-There! Now the picture is perfect. -It's only the sofa.
There's nobody in this picture.
-That's why it's called-- -The best selfie ever.
Okay, let's go home now.
Let's hope our couch is never empty, though.
This seems like a really fun kitty party.
You come here, you are in the wrong circle.
I know the value I bring is beyond how I look.
-And I look banging! -That you do, babe.
I have grown up with body dysmorphia.
I am very uncomfortable in my own skin.
"Child, don't take too many injections."
The Karan airport look!
She is ready to walk like, "Hey, mister!"
I am versatile. Something you should aspire to be.
Please, this episode… ng you should aspire to be.